Ebola in the USA
Apparently travel to and from West Africa is more important than keeping Ebola out of the country:
A patient being treated at a Dallas hospital is the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday.Fabulous. One hopes this will work out better than the failure to quarantine those with AIDS did.
The person, whose identity was not released, left Liberia on September 19 and arrived in the United States on September 20, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the CDC.
At that time, the person did not have symptoms. "But four or five days later," that person began to show symptoms, Frieden said. The person was hospitalized and isolated Sunday at a hospital in Texas.
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No reason too panic. Nope, it will be just fine. Funny two weeks ago I had this crazy Idea about not having to leave the house for three months. I wondered if it were possible for me. I decided no not possible.
Well, great. I probably won't live beyond the next five years. I'm in the medical field.
But at least we're a diverse pluralistic country that welcomes every brown person in the world.
One hopes this will work out better than the failure to quarantine those with AIDS did.
Yeh, but you can't get AIDS from a shopping cart.
I really hope this guy took a tour of the U.S. Congress and D.C.
Personally, I think this news is on the scary side. I'm not surprised though. With all the media hype as of late, it was only a matter of time.
Useless mouths......
Ya know I just thought to make a list of all the things that will be gone at Amazon if this spreads. First thing that came to mind was them rubber gloves. I think I'll make a list considering when Japans nuclear plant went , Potassium Iodide and Geiger counters were gone over night. Does anyone think I am exaggerating the animal spirits? Does it even have to become a real danger for the shortages?
I am pretty sure this is by design. Keep in mind that gravest threat facing the United States is global warming. But half this country doesn't believe in it, and most of the ones that do don't have the political or economic will to enact the necessary legislation. What better way to save the planet than to introduce a disease that will reduce the man made carbon footprint by 60-70%
You can tell what the MO is by the way they report it. When the Swine Flu Non epidemic occurred, the MSM and medical community acted like this was the biggest threat known to man. The grief I caught from some fellow allopathic-minded relatives was off the charts for not even considering the scam of a vaccine.
But Ebola...Frieden assures us this afternoon is really not a big deal if you wash your hands. Well gee, why didn't the health care workers like Brantley think of that!
Just a means to introduce internal movement and identification protocols for all. We can't get rid of the illegals but we're going to check citizen's papers on every corner.
Bonus! If you claim exempt status i.e. 'illegal', you won't be asked for id or proof of citizenship just your quarantine travel papers. Or perhaps they will allow them to use 'alternative means of identification' like they do at the DSHS and DMV.
"I am pretty sure this is by design. Keep in mind that gravest threat facing the United States is global warming."
Of course it is by design, although the biggest problem are immigrants. I pray to God the disease spreads throughout America, 100 million people die, and those Christian survivors can rebuild civilization in His image.
They'll announce ring immunizations soon for at risk in confirmed outbreaks then mandatory vaccination for everyone after that.
We can't get rid of the illegals but we're going to check citizen's papers on every corner
Like this? (he lets the cops have it, and eventually walks away)
@ Will Best
You're damn right this is by design. And anyone with a lick of sense who reads news knows it.
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Read this crap: "Wear protective clothing, including gloves, masks, gowns and eye shields if you are a health care worker."
I CAN'T DO THAT WITH EVERY SINGLE PATIENT WHO COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ISOLATION GOWNS.
Up in these parts, since the SARS scare, various public places have dispensers with a hand gel in them for de-contaminating your hands. Even some grocery stores have them.
A friend who is a nurse had a patient to deal with in the hospital that would sneak out of his room so he could steal the dispensers and drink the gel. He was very difficult.
So, the dispensers are good, but don't let the junkies near them.
No worries. We're all perfectly okay, because... Obamacare.
How many people do you wanna bet this individual was in contact with since September 1st? How many of them have been on buses? Planes? Trains?
Expect more cases of Ebola to pop up in the USA by the end of October, and even more by Thanksgiving, and expect it to be an interesting Christmas season...
With any luck, this'll expand to an Extinction-Level-Event, and we can start over fresh.
Fabulous. One hopes this will work out better than the failure to quarantine those with AIDS did.
Look on the bright side: there are far fewer [literal] Boomer faggots than there'd be otherwise.
They'll announce ring immunizations soon for at risk in confirmed outbreaks then mandatory vaccination for everyone after that.
I will be taking up arms and shooting to kill at that point.
"Ya know I just thought to make a list of all the things that will be gone at Amazon if this spreads."
Just keep the list simple - 308, 223, 45.. the rest can be aquired with that.
Greg Cochran estimates 300,000 extra deaths because we didn't quarantine AIDS. So how many because we didn't quarantine from Ebola?
@Credo In Unum Deum: I think that's the point
@simplytimothy:Washington wont last long once bodies start dropping in the streets
Just keep the list simple - 308, 223, 45.. the rest can be aquired with that.
Yeah, but I don't steal, and I dang sure don't kill people unless they are a threat tome and mine. The next life is a little more important to me than that extra box of latex gloves.
Speaking of which, if one is a gambler and likes to take advantage of people now would be the time to purchase a bunch of stuff people will think they can't do without (price gouging). But if it blows over you'll be stuck with a bunch of stuff to try and sell.
The Secret Service incident where Comrade Obama was alone with the armed ex-felon on an elevator took place on Sept 19 at the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta.
I wonder if the the Hunt For Red Obama is underway.
Excellent use of the word 'fabulous,' sir.
"They'll announce ring immunizations soon for at risk in confirmed outbreaks then mandatory vaccination for everyone after that."
Jere says: There's no vaccine for Ebola....
The global crony elites want it to spread. They are at war with humanity.
"Apparently travel to and from West Africa is more important than keeping Ebola out of the country."
Yay for Globalization.
>With any luck, this'll expand to an Extinction-Level-Event, and we can start over fresh.
What do you mean "we," kemosabe?
Africa: truly the gift that keeps on giving.
Excellent, I've always felt badly about my white privilege. As long was we're into causing the decline of the US why not go Full Africa. It's like Detroit with plague like diseases and no EBT cards.
Way Off Topic,
Doug Wilsons Little St. Andrews is bearing fruit. They have a short film that is admitted to the Raindance Film Festival (whatever that is). Trailer at the Hollywood Reporter here->http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/watch-trailer-hound-heaven-inspired-736518
Pastor Wilson reads like a proud papa at his description of it on his blog here->http://dougwils.com/s15-soaring-to-artistic-heights/a-mind-bending-apologetic.html
While the topic on Vox's blog is often the defense of civilization, against the barbarians, a vital counter-point is the offensive assault by Christians into the dead meat that is our country. Salt to the earth, that's what they are doing.
I hereby make this prediction--Atlas Shrugs--the movie--will be made correctly, beautifully by a Christian.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled murderous musings and treasonous tasks...
Think, boys.
Ebola has probably been here for a couple weeks now and this is only the first case they've caught. You can bet this will start popping up in other countries too. You would have had to ground ALL travel into and out of the country weeks ago.
Trade between the US and Ebola infected countries won't hurt the US economy at all. A complete shutdown of flights and shipping from Liberia, Sierre Leone, and Nigeria is immaterial compared to the safety of America citizens. If the government was actually worried about the US it would shut down all contact between West Africa and the US. This doesn't seem to be up for discussion. Why?
These epidemics also seem to be an excuse for Liberals and transnational aid groups to resettle third worlders into the US. Ebola is a big problem. So are all the other diseases that are making a comeback in the West via third worlders. How long before we start taking in Ebola refugees?
Is this negligence or is this a willful malicious act to spread a disease around the world?
As Curlytop pointed out above, that this disease has a kill rate near 1/2 yet the media is repeating that this isn't that big of a deal. US Ebola Patient 1 was incubating ebola so those he came into contact with wouldn't be infected. Right, like anyone would believe that this guy couldn't possibly have infected anyone else. USEP1 went to a hospital for treatment Sept. 24th and was dismissed, he went back two days later before he was quarantined.
That's why I said, 'soon'. I believe they are sitting on some kind of treatment or they wouldn't have invited Ebola into the US with open arms.
Here's a thought I copied from twitter: By November, Ebola scare level will be so high no one will go to the polls.
You know that could be a possibility. I wouldn't have thought that would be a possibility but it would be a good way to keep voter turnout low and make cheating more effective.
"Yeh, but you can't get AIDS from a shopping cart."
Depends what exactly you're doing with it..
Finally. Exactly what the administration was hoping for.
Obviously, this was planned.
Oh, wait... you guys don't think they are capable of building a healthcare website much less engineering an actual healthcare crisis.
"Obviously, this was planned."
And the first to go will be the banksters! Hip, hip. hooray!
"With any luck, this'll expand to an Extinction-Level-Event, and we can start over fresh."
Give praise to Jesus!
"Look on the bright side: there are far fewer [literal] Boomer faggots than there'd be otherwise."
And even less PUA's claiming to be Christian.
My idiot employers have been building factories in China and Brazil and parts distribution centers in Russia to make bucks everywhere in the world except the USA.
Their globalist dreams are dying hard and still the morons cannot wake up and smell the roses.
At this point I expect it is because they don't want to be thrown out by shareholders for being complete and utter chumps for close to two decades now.
Sorry, the above should have been posted to the Russia article.
Thank the Jews. They engineered all of this.
Who can go to a football game when there is Ebola in your beer?
What will this do the the VPFL?
Porky, in a hole, still digging:
Oh, wait... you guys don't think they are capable of building a healthcare website much less engineering an actual healthcare crisis.
Thanks for reminding us all just how lousy you are at making predictions, and how incapable you are of admitting when you are wrong.
With enough hand sanitizer and paper towels and plastic bags all of this can be controlled. Panic is not helpful. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
It's insane to let these people come here.
Don't forget to send a stern letter to your congressman.
Channel 11 news had a special in their six o'clock news in Dallas. They said we don't have anything to worry about here in DFW because both EMT's and the hospital staff who treated them are all under quarantine. Well, that solves that, no worries.
What will be interesting is if it crosses the Rio Grande - we may not have the will, but have the means to control the spread. I don't think if it gets south of the border it will stop before Tierra Del Fuego.
What will be interesting is if it crosses the Rio Grande - we may not have the will, but have the means to control the spread. I don't think if it gets south of the border it will stop before Tierra Del Fuego.
Combine Ebola in Texas with a surge of illegals from Central America. Then send the illegals exposed to Ebola back to their home countries, some of them are not even as well run as Nigeria. Dieoff starts in Guatamala, El Salvador and spreads to Costa Rica then both Panama and Colombia.
All due to a series of amazing coincidences.
Finally. Exactly what the administration was hoping for.
Yep, now they can quarantine all those racist white, ahhh, Ebola victims. Well, they will be Ebola victims when the FEMA is done with them.
I can't necessarily tell which comments are sarcastic and which aren't but some of your comments are outright sickening if taken seriously. We are talking about actual people's lives here not some work of fantasy. It wouldn't hurt you to have a little bit of compassion for fellow human beings.
It wouldn't hurt you to have a little bit of compassion for fellow human beings.
Were you under the mistaken impression that any of TPTB hang out here and might be convinced to have compassion for ordinary Americans?
Check out le comboxe from the Dallas media. COMEDY GOLD. Better get in while they'll still let people post, though. CBSlocal is notorious for deciding that What People Really Think = RACISS.
Ashes, ashes, we all fall down...
If I was a health care professional, I would be enacting my retirement option about now. Give them Millenials and xers a chance to make a living.
You're welcome.
It wouldn't hurt you to have a little bit of compassion for fellow human beings.
I do believe it was "compassion" that got us into this fix.
Besides, have you never heard the term "gallows humor?"
Hold on! When the 3,000 Army aid workers are rotated in and out of the hot zone we will see how good our quarantine protocols work. I suspect that even with strict orders to be careful, even 2% infected will start the epidemic in America. Thank you Federal Government!!
Just under the wire:
http://www.kurzweilai.net/1-in-5-chance-ebola-will-spread-to-the-us-in-september
I can't necessarily tell which comments are sarcastic and which aren't
Remember that scene in the 300 when they where being doused by the enemies arrows and remarked about fighting in the shade? They laughed a man's laugh.
Its like that.
Has anyone spotted any 'white privilege' claim against our Obola responsiveness?
Check out le comboxe from the Dallas media. COMEDY GOLD.
I learned a new term: "Obola".
@ Jeromus
It wouldn't hurt you to have a little bit of compassion for fellow human beings.
Hey, I got that. 24/7. Every time I see someone doing some stupid crap that will harm them, I have compassion.
Does this stop them? No.
I am sure all the people here are the same, being human and all, so the appeal to compassion is mere grandstanding. If you cannot find humor in the midst of disaster, you are not fully human.
I feel sorry for you.
"(4) Ebola-Chan is already operating as a factor in Fourth-Generation Warfare. It complicates the pacification efforts of the ‘international community’ in unpredictable ways. Once again, certain peculiar cultural formations are waiting to connect with it. At this stage it is difficult to reach even the preliminary stage of a lucid analysis, but clearly the memotechnic militarization of a medical emergency is an obstacle to the smooth evolution of established management procedures. The WHO is not ideologically equipped to publicize its intervention within the context of an occult religious race war.
(5) To what extent is Ebola-Chan an avatar of globalized Helter Skelter? Surely not to no extent at all?
(6) As 4chan is pushed ever deeper into the shadows, it seems reasonable to assume that its practical alliance with memotechnic chaos will also deepen. In this respect, Ebola-Chan is the Yin to the Cathedral’s Yang — a complement, fed by subterranean conservation laws. Much prophetic density accompanies such an analysis. If it is an end, it is no less the beginning of an end..."
Source
"I CAN'T DO THAT WITH EVERY SINGLE PATIENT WHO COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ISOLATION GOWNS."
Neither can any of my family members that are doctors or a friend who is one too. This could get ugly, fast.
"Obola"... two Shitty things... born in Africa.
Thank you PTB & CIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk
That looks plenty compassionate.
Because all threads are gun threads:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=91c_1412064773
Raciss!
"I can't necessarily tell which comments are sarcastic and which aren't but some of your comments are outright sickening if taken seriously."
You must be new here. Christian cruelty artistry is a feature, not a bug, here. Just ask Shibes Meadow.
"If Ebola-Chan is ‘successful’ it will exacerbate racial tensions in the infected region and quite possibly the globe, which would necessitate a response from political decision makers. It will force them to either redouble their efforts to ‘help’ against a tide of violence and hate – potentially worsening the crises – or withdraw their ‘aid’ and involvement.
"Again, the genius of some 4chan users was to insinuate the Ebola-Chan meme, straight-faced, into a Nigerian Internet forum. If other Nigerians are saying that Ebola is made by white people the idea that Ebola might be made by white people gains credibility. If other Nigerians are saying that Ebola is caused by White Hate Magic the idea that Ebola might be cause by White Hate Magic gains credibility. If other Nigerians are claiming that Ebola-Chan is a white death cult, and that some of the doctors are involved in it, then the possibility that this might be true needs at least to be taken into consideration. If other Nigerians are claiming that hospitals and quarantine are not there to help you, but to ensure that you become infected, and these ideas gain credence amongst the general population, then the ability of these places to continue to exist in the infected region becomes severely undermined.
"However, for the West there remains the disquieting possibility of a counter attack. While I was researching this post I came across several disturbing pieces of information, which have led me to believe that there is the strong possibility of African-Muslim terrorists using Ebola as a weapon of mass destruction. To do this is simple, all they need to do is contract the disease in sufficient numbers before descending on large densely populated western cities.
"According to American source the Business Insider:
'As the Ebola disease spreads in Africa and detainees from that continent are apprehended, the question must be asked: What if terrorists already willing to die try to bring the disease across our porous southern border?
'Nigeria is the home of Boko Haram. The Islamist terrorist group Isil [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant] has long been recruiting terrorists in the West and is known to have members with western, even American, passports. Deliberately spreading the disease to the US might not even require a plane ride, and it’s possible that terrorists already willing to strap bombs to their bodies might just as willingly get infected.'
"More unrealistic optimistic people argue that no one would be willing to voluntarily contract such a horrible disease, but it is important to remember that we are talking about the same kind of people who have in the past consistently proven willing to an hero themselves to further their cause. Spreading Ebola in a crowded western city would be far more effective in terms of causing panic and mortalities than hundreds of small-scale explosions..."
Source: Pyrrhic Victories, "Ebola-chan, mon amour"
@ Jeromus
It wouldn't hurt you to have a little bit of compassion for fellow human beings.
Hey, I got that. 24/7. Every time I see someone doing some stupid crap that will harm them, I have compassion.
Does this stop them? No.
I am sure all the people here are the same, being human and all, so the appeal to compassion is mere grandstanding. If you cannot find humor in the midst of disaster, you are not fully human.
I feel sorry for you.
Now that! is funny.
Anybody know what to use to heal a blister?
All the people who are vaccinated will drop like flies from Ebola.
Ebola in the USA
Cue Springsteen karaoke track...
"Oh, wait... you guys don't think they are capable of building a healthcare website much less engineering an actual healthcare crisis." - Porky
There's worlds of difference between building something that requires thinking and talent (of which they have neither), and just sitting on your ass and letting shit fall apart before their eyes assuming that they can step in at anytime to fix it. (Which if the death rate for Ebola holds, they really can't)
Compassion is standing outside the mud-hole and looking in on the poor soul stuck up to their waste and feeling bad for them. The compassionate one of course doesn't go into the hole to help, but their feelings are enough to calm their quivering heart.
Ebola in the USA
Cue Springsteen karaoke track...
I was thinking more along the lines of the Sex Pistols.
Anybody know what to use to heal a blister?
Pop it before the sun goes down, I was always told by my grandparents. Seemed to work.
SimplyTimothy,
HoH is one of my favourites. Here's another for you:
Lord Heroin is my shepherd,
I shall always want.
He maketh me to lie down in the gutters.
He leadeth me beside troubled waters.
He destroyeth my soul.
He leadeth me in the paths of wickedness
Even for the efforts sake.
Yea, I shall walk through the valley of poverty
And will fear all evil for thou, Heroin, art with me.
Thy needle and capsule try vainly to comfort me.
Thou strippest my table of groceries in the presence of my family.
Thou robbest my head of reason.
My cup of sorrow runneth over.
Surely heroin addiction shall stalk me all the days of my life,
And I will dwell in the house of the Damned forever.
You can find the "Addict's Psalm" referenced in many places, but I first heard it 40 years ago in London.
Ebola? Basic hygiene, stay away from Africans, and if you come down with the flu take yourself to bed with lots of liquids.
At this point, I'm recommending the Ardmore, despite it's dubious ownership.
"Basic hygiene, stay away from Africans..."
Oddly enough, can also limit the possibility of theft, assault, murder and rape.
- Ferguson Jones
Basic hygiene, stay away from Africans, and if you come down with the flu take yourself to bed with lots of liquids.
Is beer a liquid?
"Is beer a liquid?" - The other skeptic
Of course it's a liquid. What about all that wet stuff in it?
Immigration controls in the West are ridiculous and if it were up to me they would be reduced to no more than 0.1 per cent of the population per year (although it is easy for us in Australia to stick with that whereas the Americans and Europeans find it harder).
Having said that, ebola is a not a concern. Nor is HIV for that matter. Both are - for the most part - iatrogenically caused and have nothing to do with viruses. Doctors just make shit up as a matter of course. There is no evidence that the ebola virus causes what doctors say it causes.
And yes, I would be happy to swallow a vial of so-called ebola virus. As a reciprocation, everybody in the world associated with the vaccine industry should commit suicide and leave me with all their possessions in their will if I come out unscathed.
Is beer a liquid?
Beer is basically vitamins in water - invented by the Egyptians to power their pyramid building slaves!
It's got what people crave!
Black zombies are the scariest, wit they light eyes.
Went to the local pub to watch the Oak, KC game. Turned out to be a great game up until this drunk dude rolled up talking about how he's Secret Service and how he wants to kill. Tellin me about his tour in Iraq and Afghan with the Army then flashing his cuffs at me and talking crazy shit. I was about to knock this nigga out, thinkin he might be an ebola zombie or just a straight up dickhead deserving of the lesson. But I tacked and dropped some Q and E to gauge shit. Not even tin powder from this weirdo. Every quiery was met with the same response till that nigga was slumped over the bar with his cuffs and sidearm exposed. I could have took his grip, beat him down with it and handcuffed him to the hog-occupied stool two steps away, then beat him again with his own sa, before he come around.
All in all, it was a fun start to the new MLB playoff format.
For all the cube scouts lookin in, his name was Anthony Mc somethin,.. grew up in Floo shang and likes the wolftones.
late 30's early 40's, 5'8", 180-200lbs, Irish ginny, fat gut clown.
Good gravy, I know it's o'dark thirty but what the hell. Did I just drop acid before reading this thread? It's loon bait.
They can't stop planes flying from in from W. Africa. They can't track people in transit from W. Africa. They can't track MILLIONS in oil money from the ter-er-er-er-ists. We have a gazillion offshoots of Al CIAda. Russia invaded Ukraine and shot down a passenger jet. They can't close our borders that MILLIONS of people over the years of unknown origin have crossed unmolested...
There is nothing our government can do but lie to us, put a boot to our liberty, and kill us... for our own good.
If it gets out of hand, you know who to blame.
And WTF is Tower 7?
Aye all the talk of deaths of 100s of millions and starting over is a bit crazy considering this has claimed the life's of all of sub 10k people In a continent that modernity skips over in every era.
Come to think of it, them Wolftone cats are fine musicians, now that Ive fancied a gander.
See now why m uncle hated them smelly scottish bastards.
"If I was a health care professional, I would be enacting my retirement option about now. Give them Millenials and xers a chance to make a living.
You're welcome."
Typical navel gazing boomertard comment. Ignoring the fact that imbecilic boomer policies brought the virus and crimigants in the first place. Not to worry there will be plenty of "bleeding heart" imbecilic boomers rushing in where angels fear to tread.
Laramie, I too am in the medical field and while I cannot retire, I am mulling over quitting and letting the chips fall where they may. I know damn well my employer is going to half-ass Ebola precautions or implement them too late for them to matter. On the bright side, when all this has passed, there'll be plenty of jobs and affordable property!
Does anyone know if this patient is actually a US citizen?
The CDC clown got all cagey about it at the presser, but it's since been revealed that the patient is a Liberian, visiting family.
In other news, the administration announced refugee status for all the "unaccompanied minors" today. Bets that we won't "discriminate" against those who were unlucky enough to come with accompaniment?
The administration in not halting all flights into the U.S. from West Africa once the outbreak was known has proven it is either incompetent, negligent, or purposefully wicked, or maybe a combination of all three.
I thought of John Mellencamp when I saw the post title.
Question: What do you think would be the duration of an epidemic--you know, before the spread is contained?
Question is for anyone.
Back @ Ulmer Miller
I don't think regular non-medical folks realize just how often health institutions "half-ass" it.
I'm a medical worker at a major metropolitan hospital. We treat people off the street constantly. Typically, we wear gloves with each patient, though we do not know what every person is carrying when they come in off the street. So, nurses and radiographers pull many patients with very horrible diseases onto their stretchers and exam tables, not realizing what kind of disease the patients have. The flow of humanity through our doors is a tidal wave. If even one person out in the waiting room had ebola, then most assuredly, the people around that one person would get it as well. And also, I wouldn't be surprised if the next person who sits in the waiting chair of that ebola person gets it as well.
DEAR BLACK PEOPLE... STOP FUCKING MONKEYS..FIRST AIDS, NOW THIS! THAT IS ALL.
You people are comedy gold. Please continue.
Thank the Jews. They engineered all of this.
You think the lab techs and scientists at the military labs were/are jewish, or just the WHO coordinators and pharm propagandists and vaccine injectors? Or maybe both? You may be right, they are wwaaayyy overrepresented in every field.
Or the "mystery virus" striking children or the other illnesses that started to appear after the obomber led invasion by the turd world "children" from central america.
Pretty much the best thread ever.
Aye all the talk of deaths of 100s of millions and starting over is a bit crazy considering this has claimed the life's of all of sub 10k people In a continent that modernity skips over in every era.
First of all, previous breakouts of the disease in Congo, Uganda and other parts of equatorial Africa have burned out with the number of deaths under 1,000. This variant is still expanding in the number of humans effected.
So far the number of cases of Ebola in west Africa appears to have doubled every 30 days. That's a very simple function, the old "vizier and the king" example. If the number of cases in west Africa continues to double every 30 days, by the end of the year well over 100,000 will be affected with 50% or more cases resulting in death.
In the real world nothing doubles forever, and the Nigerian government may have contained their Ebola cases well enough to stop the spread in that country, at least for now. Since the virus is contained in every body fluid, and the disease causes a lot of bodily fluids to be expelled, it is well adapted to spread in densely populated areas, and not just in Africa.
The question for now is, when does the infection peak in west Africa?
Sygn, my magic 8 ball says "Reply hazy, ask again later". West Africa seems to be the worst case example for now, so keep an eye on the situation there for indications on duration. I think it was Outlaw X who commented on being able to hunker down in place for three months, but that's a SWAG.
Honestly, who the hell knows? The talk that "you can only get ebola from someone who is showing symptoms"... why on earth would we take that for true?
And Dallas is a hub. So for all we know we've got infected people passing through JFK, Hartsfield, and LAX right now. The infrastructure to spread is light years better here than in the shithole of Africa.
Hmm. This is going to affect the lockdown protocols at Outpost Four.
...Yes, I'm working on that. If I left it up to the minions, they'd be eating ketchup on saltines for six months and trying to bathe with Cascade. I know for sure that half the oatmeal would get used to make moonshine right away...
Honestly, who the hell knows? The talk that "you can only get ebola from someone who is showing symptoms"... why on earth would we take that for true?
Because government exists only for our protection?
And Dallas is a hub. So for all we know we've got infected people passing through JFK, Hartsfield, and LAX right now. The infrastructure to spread is light years better here than in the shithole of Africa.
Well, yes and no. For sure someone who is dying of the disease is spraying the virus in all directions. And also for sure someone who is just initially infected is not shedding the virus at all. The problem is, at what point in the disease progression does the virus start showing up in blood, sputum, vomit, stool, etc. in concentrations that are "high enough" to potentially infect? That does not seem to be clear. How long does the virus last on, say, a tile surface at 72 degrees F? Dunno.
Are there people who can be exposed to the virus in a low concentration and not contract the disease? Yeah, almost certainly since the current variant is less lethal than the previous ones in Congo and Uganda. Is it possible to have a "typhoid Mary"? No idea.
80 years ago in the US if someone in a city presented with certain diseases they were quarentined in place. A big sign was posted on the front door - no one comes out for X number of days. Food goes in, nobody comes out until the disease is done one way or another. We used to know how to deal with dangerous disease that spreads easily, but antibiotics came along and now we are very casual about such things. I doubt that any political entity in the US has the guts to quarentine a neighborhood, hope we don't find out the hard way.
Does anyone know if this patient is actually a US citizen?
My understanding is Liberians have blanket 'refugee' status, like Cubans. If you can apply and pass a medical exam and security check, you're in.
To the USG's credit, it appears the embassy in Monrovia (why the hell do we bother having diplomatic relations with Liberia?) has stopped doing medical exams so, no more visas from that source anyway. FWIW.
http://monrovia.usembassy.gov/immigrant_visas.html
I garentee they would if only to prevent the public from dealing with it law and order break downs tend to be bad for the guys at the top
Oh, wait... you guys don't think they are capable of building a healthcare website much less engineering an actual healthcare crisis.
@Porky
It's much easier to break something than to build it.
(why the hell do we bother having diplomatic relations with Liberia?)
Well, we kind of have to considering we invented them. Liberia is for liberty, the flag looks like ours, and the capital Monrovia is named after James Monroe.
They are like Frankenstein's monster in Africa. LOVE ME. MOOOOOARRRRR!
In the real world nothing doubles forever, and the Nigerian government may have contained their Ebola cases well enough to stop the spread in that country, at least for now.
It is called "carrying capacity." The line goes up exponentially, then tapers off and goes flat again. The Y-axis being the number of cases and X-axis is the time.
Now we have case number 2
EBOLA
Well, we kind of have to considering we invented them. Liberia is for liberty, the flag looks like ours, and the capital Monrovia is named after James Monroe.
Liberia was the USA's only colony in Africa (from 1822 to 1847). But of course, just like Haiti and Detroit, it's full of Africans, so it's a failed state, not only in the usual sense, but in the very purpose for its existence: a place for black Americans to go and live. Instead, the flow is almost entirely Liberia to USA.
And as Liberia is the hardest-hit by Ebola, it only figures that the USA would be the first ex-colonial power to get it.
The CDC just issued instructions to funeral-home directors not to embalm or perform autopsies on Ebola victims, and to wear protective gear while transporting the bodies.
There are three more cases in Atlanta, by the way.
I'm starting to think I'm living in some sort of insane dystopic Neal Stephenson novel...
--in the ruins of a shattered post-industrial economy,
--a nation ruled by a megalomaniacal African tyrant who is at war against his own people,
--is busy illegally bombing a distant army of religious psychopaths obsessed with beheading their enemies,
--while at "home"
--waves of urban "youths" amuse themselves by engaging in savage racist attacks while the African tyrant says nothing, plus
--a zombie horde of illegal-alien children swarms unopposed across the nation's borders and we cannot stop them because we are
--too busy importing infected carriers of the most lethal disease known to man.
Did I miss anything?
If I pitched this to Castalia House, they'd say "Nah, too unbelievable".
If I pitched this to Castalia House, they'd say "Nah, too unbelievable".
You haven't been around here long have you?
I haven't read that. Where's your source? Nothing surprises me at this point.
Experts claim that there will not be an Obola Epidemic here:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102048219
Surely that means there will be one.
Fun links from Drudge:
Experts question two-day delay in admission of Texas Obola patient
Five children had contact with obola patient in Texas
It's not a deliberate plot by the .gov. The hardest hit areas will be those areas most pro-government. A massive epidemic would emasculate liberals for an entire generation. The most likely explanation is stupidity and mindless adherence to the libprog agenda.
Remember, always bet the over on human stupidity.
So, the dispensers are good, but don't let the junkies near them.
When injected, deionized water stings like hell (lack of electrolytes).
Fabulous. One hopes this will work out better than the failure to quarantine those with AIDS did.
Look on the bright side: there are far fewer [literal] Boomer faggots than there'd be otherwise.
That's fabulous, too.
The global crony elites want it to spread. They are at war with humanity.
Antisemite!!!!!
Curlytop, did you mean me? If so, you'll have to wait until tomorrow because I'm offlining for the night. I have an early morning tomorrow, getting up and first thing canceling an order for 20,000 gallons of ketchup.
Men!
State Dep't orders 160,000 Obola suits for a virus that is not supposed to be airborne.
Oh, wait... you guys don't think they are capable of building a healthcare website much less engineering an actual healthcare crisis.
I'm pretty sure that importing some idiot with a communicable disease is far easier than building a website with any sort of user-interaction beyond clicking links.
It seems little grade-school kids manage to spread diseases quite rapidly, without even knowing that they're doing it.
But then, I'm just a computer engineer, so what do I know.
But then, I'm just a computer engineer, so what do I know.
Hard or soft?
I am sure all the people here are the same, being human and all, so the appeal to compassion is mere grandstanding. If you cannot find humor in the midst of disaster, you are not fully human.
And likewise when one cannot find cynicism during a disaster-in-the-making which is so obviously the result of treachery in the legislative and executive branches, then he also is not human, or at least not intellectually tall enough to ride on this ride.
"And likewise when one cannot find cynicism during a disaster-in-the-making which is so obviously the result of treachery in the legislative and executive branches, then he also is not human, or at least not intellectually tall enough to ride on this ride."
Are you a cuckold, or just plain coo-coo?
“Ebola? Basic hygiene, stay away from Africans, and if you come down with the flu take yourself to bed with lots of liquids.”
Are you a doctor, or do you just play one on TV?
“all the talk of deaths of 100s of millions and starting over is a bit crazy considering this has claimed the life's of all of sub 10k people In a continent that modernity skips over in every era.”
HUSH! The decline is inevitable. I am praying that by November, there will be tens of thousands of cases, with the virus spreading like wildfire. Christians, with our praying and faith in Jesus, will be immune from its effects, and We can rebuild this wretched place in His image.
“The infrastructure to spread is light years better here than in the shithole of Africa.”
America is clearly more of a shithole in Africa. What, you think that since we have cell phones and running water we are “better off”?
“But of course, just like Haiti and Detroit, it's full of Africans, so it's a failed state, not only in the usual sense, but in the very purpose for its existence: a place for black Americans to go and live.”
Where will the place that PUA’s who claim to be Christian live, Corvinus?
HUSH! The decline is inevitable. I am praying that by November, there will be tens of thousands of cases,
As has been reported elsewhere they have been seriously under reporting the number of cases. The estimates are that only about 25% of cases have been reported. I suspect it is closer to 10%.
@Sigyn
Yes, sorry. I'm functioning from moble phone bc internet down.
Occurred to me after posting that you might have meant the 3 docs sent to Emory.
Pity comment posted at Rebellion:
"No matter what happens we must resist ebolaphobia. These viruses are simply coming here for a better life, to do jobs that American viruses refuse to do."
EBOLA BOWLER, ARE YOU BLACK OR GAY? IF SO, CAN YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM FUCKING CHIMPS, MONKEYS OR GORILLAS? FIRST YOU GAVE US AIDS NOW THIS...
"No matter what happens we must resist ebolaphobia.
People need to learn to spell properly. That's Obolaphobia.
"As has been reported elsewhere they have been seriously under reporting the number of cases."
Good, then the plan is springing into action. Are you ready to die for the Lord, the other skeptic?
"EBOLA BOWLER, ARE YOU BLACK OR GAY?"
Oh, dear, it looks like we have a con artist on our hands. Listen, ma'am, denying your fate only makes it that much worse. There are free clinics to assist you with your medical condition.
Pretty much the best thread ever. <-- that imho was when they started discussing vaccines a few weeks (?) back
@Sigyn
Yes, sorry. I'm functioning from moble phone bc internet down.
Occurred to me after posting that you might have meant the 3 docs sent to Emory.
Okay.
First, here's the link about the funeral home directions.
Second, I did a little searching and you're right; that's what it referred to. It was pretty vague in the article I linked, so I got the wrong idea.
So, the dispensers are good, but don't let the junkies near them.
"When injected, deionized water stings like hell (lack of electrolytes)." - Akulkis
I think zen0 was referring to what's colloquially known as a Betty Ford martini. (they drink it)
"America is clearly more of a shithole in Africa. What, you think that since we have cell phones and running water we are “better off”?" - Bowling For Ebola
Dude, are you freaking kidding me?!? Even the poorest worst off homeless person would thank their lord and savior they were born here and not in the World's asshole known as Africa.
Anyone who says otherwise is full of pure weapons-grade bullshit, or is borderline retarded.
"Dude, are you freaking kidding me?!? Even the poorest worst off homeless person would thank their lord and savior they were born here and not in the World's asshole known as Africa. Anyone who says otherwise is full of pure weapons-grade bullshit, or is borderline retarded."
The only one who is significantly mentally impaired is yourself. Americans are consumed with their possessions. Africans live simply, as God intended. There is no comparison--America is a moral cesspool.
God is punishing us for our wicked ways. Do you want to learn more?
"Americans are consumed with their possessions. Africans live simply, as God intended. There is no comparison--America is a moral cesspool." - Bowling For Ebola
Yes, we Americans consumed with possessions are far less moral than the roving bands of "soldiers" who chop off the limbs of their fellow country men and rape random women for shits and giggles. Not to mention the superstitious idiots who believe that having sex with virgins will cure AIDS, that witch doctors can steal their penises, and that they've managed to live on one of the most resource rich continents for so long and have yet to do anything about it unless led into it by foreigners.
"Not to mention the superstitious idiots who believe that having sex with virgins will cure AIDS, that witch doctors can steal their penises, and that they've managed to live on one of the most resource rich continents for so long and have yet to do anything about it unless led into it by foreigners."
Still reading your National Geographics circa 1951, huh.
No matter. The rapture is coming to a city near you. Pray you or your loved ones don't get the scourge. If you do, game over. All in the name of God.
"Not to mention the superstitious idiots who believe that having sex with virgins will cure AIDS, that witch doctors can steal their penises, and that they've managed to live on one of the most resource rich continents for so long and have yet to do anything about it unless led into it by foreigners."
"Still reading your National Geographics circa 1951, huh.
No matter. The rapture is coming to a city near you. Pray you or your loved ones don't get the scourge. If you do, game over. All in the name of God." - "Bowling For Ebola
You think my worldview of Shithole Central (A.K.A Africa) is based off of info from National Geographic...seriously? How about any news source in the last 10-20 years and anyone with enough sense to admit the truth, that if left to their own devices Africa would be a wasteland of starving feral idiots walking around on the richest continent on the planet happy beyond belief because they stumbled across an antelope carcass left behind by a lion.
As to your second point, this is how many in a series of TEOTWAWKI* since I've been born and yet the world keeps turning. I'll know it's the end when I'm nice and toasty in hell with the rest of the sinners and non-believers.
(*The end of the world as we know it)
"How about any news source in the last 10-20 years and anyone with enough sense to admit the truth, that if left to their own devices Africa would be a wasteland of starving feral idiots walking around on the richest continent on the planet happy beyond belief because they stumbled across an antelope carcass left behind by a lion."
And who is to say their simple, tranquil lifestyles was somehow WORSE than those Europeans who barged in and forced down the throats of those "feral idiots" their religion and technology. Because progress.
"I'll know it's the end when I'm nice and toasty in hell with the rest of the sinners and non-believers."
Are you agnostic? Heaven forbid, an atheist? Then may God have mercy on your (rotten) soul.
"And who is to say their simple, tranquil lifestyles was somehow WORSE than those Europeans who barged in and forced down the throats of those "feral idiots" their religion and technology. Because progress." - Bowling For Ebola
Yes, barely eking out an existence and facing death every day is soooo much better than living like civilized people. Good one.
"Are you agnostic? Heaven forbid, an atheist? Then may God have mercy on your (rotten) soul." - Bowling For Ebola
Agnostic, and you're not the first to wish me well on my way to hell.
"Yes, barely eking out an existence and facing death every day is soooo much better than living like civilized people. Good one."
You do realize that the tribes of Africa met the five criteria for civilization--social structure, stable food supply, religion, government, writing, culture, technology. Because I am fairly certain prior to European invasion they were content with their lives, regardless of the hazards they faced.
So, please define for the viewing audience what is YOUR criteria for "civilized" living.
Sorry, seven criteria.
"You do realize that the tribes of Africa met the five criteria for civilization--social structure, stable food supply, religion, government, writing, culture, technology. Because I am fairly certain prior to European invasion they were content with their lives, regardless of the hazards they faced.
So, please define for the viewing audience what is YOUR criteria for "civilized" living." Bowling For Ebola
Okay.
1.) social structure - Yes, if you can call tribal warfare, random rapes and massacres a social structure sure.
2.) stable food supply - Yeah, so stable they've been begging for food aid as long as I've been alive and for decades before then. Unless you're counting the occasional cannibals, then maybe I'll grant you this one, as there's no shortage of dead bodies to eat in Africa.
3.) religion - Do witchdoctors really count?
4.) government - I suppose a corrupt and useless government is still a government.
5.) writing - Yes, do me a favor and read some
African writing.
6.) culture - Nigga please.
7.) technology - Okay, now i know you're a troll for sure.
Bowling for Ebola: Where did you get your list of criteria for civilization?
Social structure? Dogs have social structure, as do apes.
Stable food supply? Many animals have that.
Government? Are there any humans that don't have tribal leaders? As do baboon troops.
Writing? Yes, that Is one of the criteria for civilization, but is there any indigenous sub-Saharan writing?
Culture? Again, is there any tribe of savages that does not have a culture?
If you're going to argue for Black African civilization, you're going to have to try harder.
Your comedy routine needs some work. We all know that Discard is a feral white wunderkind, so perhaps you are trying to get to his level with your material. I will admit that the National Geographic reference was in error. Your “knowledge” of Africa is circa 1912. Please continue with your ignorance, it is most entertaining.
Bowling for Ebola: Insults are the argument of those who can't argue with facts and reason. Explain to me where I am wrong, if you can. The most primitive peoples on Earth have social structure, government of some sort, a more or less stable food supply, a culture and some kind of religion. By your criteria, all people are civilized.
Try this for fun:
Nazis had social structure.
Nazis had a stable food supply.
Nazis had government.
Nazis had writing.
Nazis had culture.
Nazis had religion.
Nazis had technology.
Care to argue that Nazis are not civilized?
Questions:
If technology is one of the criteria for civilization, does more advanced technology indicate that one group is more civilized than another?
If a stable food supply is one of the criteria for civilization, are those who exploit the poor, and therefore have a more stable food supply, more civilized than the exploited?
Do you realize that you've been spouting nonsense? Even if I agreed with your point of view, I would still be embarrassed for our side because you sound like an ignorant fool.
Oh, I forgot. Is there any indigenous Black African writing system?
feral white wundermann. I'm much too old to be a kind.
Feral white, try to follow closely. The Nazis, a political group, were GERMAN, an ethnic group. The GERMANS as a people meet the criteria for civilization. Whether the Nazis were “civilized”, God had judged their actions. Praise in His name!
“By your criteria, all people are civilized.”
Feral white, try to follow closely. I set forth seven criteria for CIVILIZATION, which is found in any world history or geography textbook. Africans clearly meet this definition. Whether they are “civilized”, ask the Lord for guidance. He shall give you the most blessed response.
“Does more advanced technology indicate that one group is more civilized than another?”
Advanced technology is the bane of existence, the root of our current peril. Exactly why I pray to God that ebola strikes non-believers down in America so we can start fresh as Christians.
“If a stable food supply is one of the criteria for civilization, are those who exploit the poor, and therefore have a more stable food supply, more civilized than the exploited?”
Isaiah 3:14 is the appropriate response. “The Lord takes his place in court and rises to judge his people. He enters into judgment against the elders and leaders of his people saying, “It is you who have ruined my vineyard; the plunder from the poor is in your houses”.
Pray to God for your soul to keep, feral white.
So far,
I(t) ≅ e^(0.308*t)
with t in days and I(t) is the number of people infected.
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